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Posted on January 19, 2007 at 16:51

I'll be honest: I like scantily-clad women in my games, running around in a bikini made of stainless steel and Kevlar just as much as the next guy. I'm not the kind of guy who will buy Tomb Raider or Dead or Alive Xtreme 2 just because I want to see some digital jugs, but I do appreciate the time and effort that my artistic brethren put into the characters in games I play, like Guild Wars. Still, I can't help but find it amusing at how women are portrayed in games, and the debate surrounding the issue.

Let's get the obvious out of the way right now - women are usually overly sexual in games because most people who play games are male. More importantly, they are teenage / college-age males... you know, the kind of males who really like polygons formed into vaguely female shapes. So naturally, in order to make this target audience want to buy, developers feel the need to pepper their games with this sort of thing. I guess I can't blame them though, because it works, even if it gives gaming a distinctly bad taste for women who feel adventurous enough to give it a try.

So where does that leave the socially conscious developer? If I want to include a female character in a game, should she be uber-sexy? Would it be more tasteful or real to include a not-so-shapely female character? If the rest of the characters in my game are war-scarred, trash-talking heavyweights, doesn't it follow that any female characters I throw into the mix should be the same? And would anyone (even the ladies out there) really want to see an overweight, scorched and scarred, trash-talking woman running around in the typical spandex armor, shooting people?

I should mention that I also enjoy female characters with real stories, who seem more real than the typical ladies of electronica, like Jade (Beyond Good & Evil) or April Ryan (the Longest Journey). But I still find the debate over the sexiness of women in games amusing at times... Because, despite all the grit and grime that usually covers the male heroes of our games, aren't they too usually physically perfect specimens?


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I was freaking out when I read the title and saw it was you. XD

Anyways, I guess including a girl in a game would attract some people...
<font color='white'>*cough*sad, lifeless people*cough*</font>
Posted by NeutralReiddHotel January 19, 2007 16:54 - 10.9 years ago
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I was freaking out when I read the title and saw it was you. XD
Ditto.

I don't care whether it's a man, a woman, or even a sexless alien! But, if you really want to make a fat woman don't make it look like you are putting the women down.
Posted by Daniel-Dane January 19, 2007 16:57 - 10.9 years ago
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Did you write this, Fred?

I really don't care for women in games. They're a distraction and a gimmick. When I want to look at girls, I usually manage to do so by leaving the basement and going outside. If you're going to lust after a girl, best make sure that she's real.

Not to mention that it is, as you said, demeaning to women. Their only purpose is to make young men horny? Yeah, that makes sense. In movies, attractive girls often serve to advance the plot (i.e. the evildoer is too busy looking at the girl's boobs to notice the ray gun pointed at his head). In games, there is no reason to add scantily-clad women.

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Would it be more tasteful or real to include a not-so-shapely female character?

No, you can have attractive (or not-so-shapely) girls in your game. Just give them a purpose... one that doesn't involve a hard stick and a bunch of seamen.
Posted by Polystyrene Man January 19, 2007 17:03 - 10.9 years ago
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Yes, that's a pun. [;)]
Posted by Polystyrene Man January 19, 2007 17:04 - 10.9 years ago
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Well sexy women do work, I agree.
And i also think its time for games to have more leading female roles, and not just really 'sexy' looking , 'perfect' females, but ones with more personality, a bit of character development, I think, would go a long way, as women are protrayed shallowly in videogames...
(I think it might be a big hit with the feminists out there(well, if it gets enough attention and popularity it would...))
Posted by RetroVortex January 19, 2007 17:04 - 10.9 years ago
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I meant what Polystyrene Man said what I put as invisible text on my last comment.
Posted by NeutralReiddHotel January 19, 2007 17:06 - 10.9 years ago
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look at Alyx from HL2 - she wasn't sexual in anyway, but she was cool - especially when killing stuff
Posted by ultim8p00 January 19, 2007 17:11 - 10.9 years ago
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It scraes me to see guys drooling over computer generated chicks.

>_>
Posted by shawn January 19, 2007 17:11 - 10.9 years ago
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^Exactly.
Posted by Polystyrene Man January 19, 2007 17:13 - 10.9 years ago
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I think this still happens because of habit as well...
Some companies have bad habits when making their games, *cough*capcom*cough*, and they tend to keep the trend the same as it worked the last 10-20 times...
Posted by RetroVortex January 19, 2007 17:14 - 10.9 years ago
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Female characters like the ones you mention irk me greatly. However, there can be female characters who are reasonably attractive but who aren't whores in armor (and I mean armor in the very... erm... loosest sense of the word). There's a balance that I think you should strive for.

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An easy way to make a game good is to put hot naked beach chicks in it!

Ever heard of a game called Grand Theft Auto? You might like it.
Posted by Jabberwock January 19, 2007 17:16 - 10.9 years ago
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Go with my idea. If the story line calles for a female character, then go ahead and stick one in there, but in there as to represent the female character, not to pull in players by sex-apeal. Else, just don't put anything in.

See, my Dr. Putts game will soon have an avatar system with male and female avatars, but all you see is the head. I'm only going to use them to represent the players in multiplayer mode.

So, next time, could you post a blog that DOSENT make me feel FredFredrickson has lost his mind. Or at the very least, if you go into a blog topic like this again, STICK MORE THAN WOMEN IN THERE!!! Like news on Aces High, Hover Tanks, or Aster Blaster.

And on a side note, I've never seen any human characters in your games. Yes, they are mentioned, but never seen, so I don't see the problem here.
Posted by BenRK January 19, 2007 17:19 - 10.9 years ago
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You see, with FredFredrickson, he likes to make blogs about common issues that we all face every day, sort of like a speach followed by a discussion, (I personally believe it is a good way to spend the time as it helps you look at society and its complications)
His most common theme/genre is Video games, as he makes them, and plays them, (at least I think he does..)
(if I am incorrect about this Fred, please correct me..)
Posted by RetroVortex January 19, 2007 17:26 - 10.9 years ago
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I was freaking out when I read the title and saw it was you. XD

When I saw who had made it I laughed =p
Posted by KaBob799 January 19, 2007 17:34 - 10.9 years ago
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Quote: Polystyrene Man
a hard stick and a bunch of seamen.


That was my next game, Caveman Sailor, about a stone age navy where they fight using clubs on boats. You stole the plot, now it's ruined!
Posted by Shork January 19, 2007 17:51 - 10.9 years ago
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Well, hey, in Castlevania: Lament of Innocence, Leon Belmont has a nice ass and Hector in Castlevania: Curse of Darkness has manthighs. Then again, the people who noticed that were lesbians. :o
Posted by thernz January 19, 2007 17:58 - 10.9 years ago
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Video game developers know the golden rule of marketing: Sex sells.
Posted by Tasm January 19, 2007 17:59 - 10.9 years ago
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Sex is currency
She sells cars,
She sells magazines

Addictive bitter-sweet
clap your hands
with the hopeless nicotine

Easier Than Love - Switchfoot - Nothing is Sound
Posted by flashback January 19, 2007 18:21 - 10.9 years ago
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Quote: FredFredrickson
...Jade (Beyond Good & Evil) or April Ryan (the Longest Journey)...

You know, ironically, those two are some of the best video game characters ever.
Posted by Requiem January 19, 2007 18:32 - 10.9 years ago
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The princess in FFXII is hot. =D
Posted by DFortun81 January 19, 2007 20:13 - 10.9 years ago
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