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Posted by Ronnica on Oct. 9, 2012, 5:27 p.m.

Hi everybody!

So this is slightly random, doesn't really have a point to it. It’s one of those things that have happened but I’m only just realizing that it bothers me. Again, it’s random, and I really hope that I don’t offend someone.

Yesterday I was teaching ESL and only one student came. His name is Pedro and he’s like 60-something. He’s originally from Nicaragua, been in Alaska for 20 years, wants to improve his English because he’s also a church pastor and wants to be able to share the word of God with more English speaking people.

Anyways, he was telling me a story (as best as he could in English) about his last missions trip to Nicaragua. While he was there, he explained to me that a 10 year old boy asked, “So you’re from Alaska? Does that mean you speak English?â€? and then they proceeded to talk for a while. Turns out the kid was born and raised in California, but ended up in Nicaragua because his parents were deported.

That doesn't really bother me. That happens A LOT in America and yes, it sucks and immigration laws should be different and whatever. I’m not into politics so that isn’t what I’m bitching about. What seems to bother me and make me think is that he then tells me, “I’m a big part of my church’s ‘program’ against abortion.â€? And then compares deporting an American-born child to his parents’ native country to abortion. “Either way, it’s just getting rid of children.â€?

…I disagree. Relocation of a person (as unjust as it seems) and a medical procedure (as unjust as it seems) appear very different to me. I don’t feel it’s a fair to compare the two. Only I wasn't sure how to explain that to Pedro without offending him.

Another thing that comes to mind is when I was 15 and living close to Vancouver. We had a church youth meeting and the topic was something like “Being able to defend God’s plans,â€? which required us to come up with topics like Abortion, Stem Cell Research, Cloning, Gay Marriage, and write out Bible verses that “provedâ€? why all those things were against God’s will so people couldn’t “shake our faith.â€? My brother and I were among the most unenthusiastic ‘youth’ there.

What that has to do with aborting/deporting American-born kids I don’t know. I think my brain just compares it all to how in my opinion, the church (or the churches I've gone to, who knows, it’s probably just me) dramatizes everything and makes it the world sound worse than it really is. Woman gets raped, can’t raise the child so terminates her pregnancy. American born child is deported with his family because his non-citizen parents are not allowed to be in America. “OMG HOW EVIL THEY’RE ALL GOING TO HELL!!!!!!â€?

I don’t know if that’s an appropriate response, but that’s how Pedro feels. I also assume he’s not the only one. It’s just… it doesn't sound right. To me, at least.

ANYWAYS, I hope y’all are doing alright. I’m getting my wisdom teeth removed early on the 12th. Wish me luck. Or pray for me =P

HAVE A GREAT DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I LOVE YOU ALL SOOOOOOOOOO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Comments

firestormx 11 years, 8 months ago

I love you rez.

But shouldn't Jesus be on the left side, and mirrored so he's pointing at the train? YOU WILL NOT GET YOUR COMMISSION UNTIL IT IS RIGHT.

Also: "Religion IS the old "science" that the majority of us have moved on from" is what can sum up a lot of things.

Edit: Just noticed that if you read Rez's comment right-to-left, Jesus is pointing at his avatar, and Rez is freaking out.

Toast 11 years, 8 months ago

Quote:
I'm religious and you can't prove me wrong!
thats great

now go back to your designated worshiping zone and be quiet

Ronnica 11 years, 8 months ago

Quote:
Ronnica is God.

This better not be usertag.

Either way it's true.

Rez 11 years, 8 months ago

@FSX:

IS THIS BETTER

Ferret 11 years, 8 months ago

Here you go FSX:

Rob 11 years, 8 months ago

Quote:
Another thing that comes to mind is when I was 15 and living close to Vancouver. We had a church youth meeting and the topic was something like “Being able to defend God’s plans,â€? which required us to come up with topics like Abortion, Stem Cell Research, Cloning, Gay Marriage, and write out Bible verses that “provedâ€? why all those things were against God’s will so people couldn’t “shake our faith.â€?

I find that weird, especially for British Columbia.

Not Me 11 years, 8 months ago

Wow. I had better add this to the list of things I suck at. :( At least I tried.

firestormx 11 years, 8 months ago

Thank you, ferret. At least SOMEONE shares my vision. *glares at rez*

Not Me: It's best not to defend religion, unless you're defending it to people that already agree with you.

Religion requires faith, and its arguments generally don't stand up without faith. The bible teaches something, and you have faith that what you are reading is the word of God. A textbook teaches something, and you have faith that a scientist actually performed the study, his peers approved of it, additional observations were performed, and thus you have faith that what you're reading isn't just made up by someone who wants a particle named after them, and makes a declaration that cannot be proven wrong without spending billions of dollars on a machine. *takes a deep breath*

Kunedon 11 years, 8 months ago

You gotta give Not Me some credit for trying to defend the dog and susej his sausage.