The Pheonix101 opinion

Posted by Adventus on Oct. 20, 2006, 3:09 a.m.

<b>Rant</b>

I've never really regarded the GMC on the whole as a bad community…. and i still dont, but here is one point which, although pretty thoroughly understood amongst this community, still worthy of discussion.

Noobs (Big surprise….) Im not talking of those appreciative albeit inexperienced GM users, more the actively annoying people who inbetween bumping their own topics, insist on producing crappy productions which bring nothing new to GM yet, for some reason unfathomable to my primitive mind, are heralded as gods amongst slightly noobier people. When i heard other 64D users speak of the noobs, i could never really relate since i had never been effected enough by one to notice.

Im not afraid to name names, so what really sparked this uprising of teenage angst was <b>Tofp</b> and his continuously bumped topic: <A HREF="http://forums.gamemaker.nl/index.php?showtopic=244877"><b>Tofp Area's V1.2</b></A>. Now i understand that this person is quite likely non-english speaking, but how many continuous bumps followed by 9999/10 can this person receive before he eventually realises that his examples have been done before to a fuller extent and are, to some extent, decieving. For instance, his highly touted bloom effect…. I wont go into the fact that its not actually a bloom since it doesn't determine whats above the threshold…. (woops i just did)…. its more the reason that it gets such high fps, which is because he set the *cough* blur *cough* to redraw every six steps…. pffff and since every ones getting a high fps above 360 nobody can notice the glitchiness that would be caused by using such a system in a realistic environment.

Infact it is quite obvious (and well pointed out by <b>OpticalLiam</b> i may add) that many of these examples are merely direct rips of previously released sources. Hell he even ripped the font effect from <b>GearGOD</b>'s Radial without giving an ounce of credit.

The problem is I really didn't care what the noobs did until i realised just how many good productions are being lost due to lack of encouragement and ill treated amongst the bitching, biting and scratching that is known as the GMC Creations/WIP forum. One of these productions will likely be <b>L3S</b>…which is in my humble opinion worth slightly more than 30 posts. You may put this down to my own vanity, and it is to a degree, but it is the project that suffers not me, i had planned a few updates and inclusions. Maybe there's just not a need for high quality lighting engines….

Basically i believe the moderators and advanced users, should try and maintain a community which encourages high quality projects which push GM's limitations. The simple/ethical solution lies in not posting or flaming these annoying & bad topics and simply focus our bumping prowess on whats good and hoping the noobs will eventually grow out of it. I believe <b>SleepinJohnnyFish</b> posted a similar idea on the GMC community forum.

<b>GM</b>

Anyway… enough bitching….onto GM, I've totally redone the rendering system of my game which now features a dynamic zoom, so it can either manually or automatically be zoomed in/out…. whilst maintaining shadow quality i may add (not the usual surface scaling). The rewrite did make it slightly slower and more vmem intensive since i upped the resolution from 512x384 to 800x600, which allowed me to prettify my HUD a bit more. Also i've been implementing a TDS multiplayer engine i've been developing using the 39dll, currently i've got a nice chat system as well as the some decent Dead-Reckoning movement. I'm mainly focussing on maintaining network/bandwidth efficency so all those poor buggers with dial up(like me) can play.

Anyway Peace out.

<b>EDIT:</b> Fixed most of the spelling errors, since i had to rush writing it.

Comments

Polystyrene Man 17 years, 6 months ago

Quote: sk8m8trix
we need a hitler….. to kill alll the n00bs
That's not funny in the slightest bit.

rockyran 17 years, 6 months ago

Well, the topic got closed

A cute puppy dies whenever people post garbage like that.

RetroVortex 17 years, 6 months ago

I like the idea of a advanced forum.

I believe it should be started with a decent user, and then he/she could 'invite' other good users to the forum. (They find good games, and a mod or something find 'em and sends them an invite).

And of course activity and consistency should be taken into account.

Possibly a background check if possible as well, (you don't wanto invite a noob who has stole an example…)

Of course I'm just thinking and typing here. Oh and I don't go to the GMC ever now. I gave up on it as my best project only got 24 replies, (most of them being mine…)

I'm at home here thanks… :D

flashback 17 years, 6 months ago

If you happen to have the download of this junk, I'd like to see who he ripped his explosions off of. Better not be me.

Adventus 17 years, 6 months ago

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I think there should be a forum started by someone reputable for advanced GM users, that is invitation only.
Yea thats a great idea, but we would need someone really well known (like FredFredrickson) to start it up if we want it to survive. Some people would probably argue that thats what 64digits is for, but unfortunatley im not sure if thats going to remain true.

Quote:
In fact. I just reported it without waiting for him to react. I don't like that guy <_<
Yea i had been watching the topic for a little while now… waiting for a mod to shut it down… especially after OpticalLiam's comments… but i guess its our responsibility to report crap like this when we want action.

Anyway its good to know that i wasnt over-reacting, I am still relatively new to this community.

Adventus 17 years, 6 months ago

Quote:
If you happen to have the download of this junk, I'd like to see who he ripped his explosions off of. Better not be me.
Here ya go, this is the most recent version i've got anyway: <A HREF="http://64digits.com/users/Pheonix101/TofpAreas.zip">TofpAreas</A>

abacus 17 years, 6 months ago

N00bs must be burned.

GearGOD 17 years, 6 months ago

EO gdc is a bit bullshit IMO. They claim that they're a group of talanted devs/artists and they pick people who show ability, yet several members of the thing have not released a single game in all their history, much less an impressive game, while at the same time, a large number of talanted people are not there (whether they have been invited or not, I can't know of course).

I'd like to see a considerably wider invite-only non-retarded group than EO.

Adventus 17 years, 6 months ago

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I'd like to see a considerably wider invite-only non-retarded group than EO.
Yea i agree. Personally i think EO has lost touch with the GMC, or maybe they're just no longer willing to wade through the crap inorder to find the worthy members. Apart from FF's inclusion i really cant think of any other EO news thats occured since i've been here. They seem to have secluded themselves enough from the GMC to never release any EO productions.

I guess it likely that many of the original members simply grew out of GM and moved onto C (….or what ever).