An exam… maybe you were wet daydreaming. Yeah right. You suck.

-Rhys

And again, I make another fair sized comment, and more posts. >:(

That's seriously not going to stop you if you're sexualy compulsive. Heroin addicts don't care about how bad the come-down is, they'll go right back up as soon as they can.

That's a primitive and uneducated excuse to try and explain the phenomenon of sexual urges.

It's true that humans have the urge to have sex, and they do. Catholics aren't saying don't have sex, they're saying don't masturbate, don't have sex outside of marriage, do it for pro-creation. (I don't agree with that last one; sex is the most intimate action you can perform, and it keeps a relationship healthy)

Also, if what Rhys is saying, it sounds like masturbation is newly discovered to you, and much like who I was introduced into drugs, I didn't slowly discover it, and slowly work my way up to it, as most pubescent children do with masturbation, but instead someone's like "here's ecstatsy, ketamine, blah blah blah, have fun", and bam, I was just thrown into it, 'cause it was readily available, and I was old enough to understand a lot of what it was (but I still did it anyway, 'cause I'm dumb). I was like "wow, this is the best thing in the world, I know it's going to kill me, but I love it!", not to the point where it's like "omg! everyone should try this! you're all so ignorant!" and stuff, but I thought it wsa pretty great. Since then, I've realized - and I don't mean you'll realize this about masturbation - that it's a really bad thing, and I gotta slow down, and all that good stuff. But what I'm saying is, if this is newly discovered for you, and you're old enough to have access to the internet, to understand how to get porn, the feelings aren't new and confusing, etc, etc, of course you're going to act how you are right now. But trust me, it's not all it's cracked up to be.

"oh no, pot is safe, it's not addictive, it won't kill you, it has no side-effects, it'll be fun, you'll love it."

Pot fuckin' sucks, and it's full of problems. (btw, anyone who's reading this and smokes pot, your breasts arent' getting larger because you're eating more and getting fat, it's because pot is reducing your testosterone, increasing your estrogen, and you are literally growing boobs.)

So just, don't take it at face value. Even though I know you're not catholic or anything, I just made a huge-ass post, that went into a LITTLE BIT of how bad masturbation is for you. So be careful with it.

"But all my friends are going nuts over it!"

And how many of those friends will contract AIDs in their lifetime? Fuckin' eh to people's logic, man.

Geargod:

I didn't say a very large percentage of people were going to become sexually compulsive, but when I was listing things about sexual compulsiveness, I also stated that I had only written some of the worst stuff. There is a lot that can lead a psychistrist to believe you are SC, and recomend you go into 12 step or something.

A healthy sexual outlet is important, and catholics say that you will hopefuly get one later in life, via a wife. However, many psychologists are split on that, because a male, particularly an abuse survivor, will likely require more stimulation and a more "extreme" outlet as time progresses. Naturaly if a patient asks if they should masturbate, the doctor will likely know the patient's history well enough to usually say "go for it", or "try to keep it to a minimum".

I don't feel like repeating metaphors, but there are connections; more so than something like "watching violence will make your child agressive". Watching violence doesn't (well, shouldn't) raise your serotonin and other "happy chemicals" to such high levels.

Yes, I know all human action is for self-gratification, but like every addiction, you aren't going to like the consequences, but you will like the addiction more than the consequences, which means you're fine while you're using/doing, but once you come down/stop, and the consequences hit you, it's quite hellish. You can ask any addict who has recovered, and they will tell you they feel so much more free. It's not just because "oh, I don't rail cocain every day, and I feel great because I don't have to constantly be doing that", but it's also because now that the addiction isn't in his mind, he is able to deal with the consequences, usually sort them out, and he's able to look at life much clearer and better. Just like when you tell a huge lie, and people find holes in it, and you keep patching them up and up, and you just get deeper and deeper, and finally when you tell the truth, it's like "okay, all those consequences of people repeatidly finding holes in my stories are gone, I don't have to continually act like I was sick on that day I didn't come into work (or whatever), and sure I have to deal with this period where no one will trust me, and that'll be hell, but I'll get over it, and having people trust me again will feel great."

If it's the spouse masturbating the other person, it's considered sex. If you masturbate in the presense of your spouse - getting yourself warmed up and such - it's all good. It's like asking your wife "if I haev sex with you in your sleep, is that considered cheating?" "no" "But I thought any sex that you didn't condone was cheating" "Well, it'll be with me, so it's fine."

And cyber sex may not be cheating to you, but you're not catholic, and you simply consider an intimate act with another person to be cheating. That's how catholics think too, except that fantasizing about that (which most people have to do), is considered the same thing. You're getting the same kick out of it (yes, I know masturbation and sex with your signifigant other is always a seperate thing in a guy's head), and you're attempting to tell yourself that you're engaging in this act with someone other than your spouse.

Those relationships will fall apart, and like you, they can't see any reason why it would fall apart either. Also, I never once said the bible said so. I got this from reading up on random psychology, and talking to a few therapists I know. What generally happens, is that you are performing the most intimate act a human can engage in, with another person. You have no idea how your feelings are going to come out as, but if you go into it thinking that it's a good idea, hell that it might even spice up your relationship with your spouse, it will not do what you think at all…I really don't know how to explain this the way they do, but I've learned that it's not a good idea, you don't have to think it's a bad idea, and this is more about the "health risks" of masturbation.

Chirantha:

Define what "wiki" is. Am I calling a large group of anonymous people who I have never met, and have no idea if I can trust, wrong? I actually haven't said wiki is wrong in this "conversation", but I have seen it wrong plenty of times before. That's half of why they have an edit button there.

Now then, I don't think you understand what doctors mean by addiction. You're probably thinking "oh, if you just can't stop doing it, that's addiction". That is not addiction. If that were the case, you'd be addicted to everything from breathing, to eating, to sleeping. Like I said, addiction is defined through consequences.

Also, masturbation does not discourage raping or becoming gay (no idea wtf that has to do with it), I actually said it is more likely to encourage it. Lack of masturbation will not encourage you to do those things either. Maybe you should read my post one more time?

Urinary Tract Infection? Infection can not just "walk into the bladder". As you said, it was part of some of your personal complications. I would also like to point out that your UT leads to your bladder, steering quite clear of where semen is produced and stored. Therefore, there is nothing that masturbation could have done to "fix that".

No, you're not weird. You were likely either abused, or had to find a way of self-soothing, and you turned to that. If you were abused, it will likely lead to quetions about your sexuality later in life, and if it was just self-soothing, you're just likely to become sexually compulsive. You may already be, what with the distorted reasoning you come up with to defend it. (I'm not saying it's all distorted, but there is a lot wrong with it)

Lets say this simple.

I or anyone that does have a working reproductive system that isn't used to wet dreams can NOT stay without masturbation and sex. :-/ I am sure others can't as well. They may just say I don't but they do but they keep it secret. Which shows how needed it is.

No. You're what, 16? And you probably don't care enough about the human body to learn how it all works, but that is seriously not how it works. That's as ignorant as saying girls like vaginal sex. Very few girls like vaginal sex, and fewer still will orgasm from it. Most would prefer you go down on them, and even then, a high percentage of girls can not orgasm at all.

Or, most guys think if they play around down there, the girl will be turned on. She won't be aroused in the slightest (unless you happen to be one of those girls who can orgasm, usually they're multiple/consecutevly orgasmic), and will likely get very annoyed. You get her talking in a good and intimate conversation though, and her brain will tell her "okay, let's reproduce". Where as with a guy, you just gotta touch him, and he's like "woah! Let's goooo!"

Anyone with a functioning brain and hormones is going to become depressed at some point, and anti-depressants are going to help with that. Is everyone on anti-depressants? Should everyone be on anti-depressants? Do people have the urge to feel happier when they're depressed? Yes. Often they'll turn to alcohol or something rather than anti-depressants, but the large number of alcoholics give you a rough estimate of how many people would take anti-depressatns. (Assuming they were instant, and not some sort of treatment)

Like I said in the first post, saying "that's just how your body works" is false, and does not justify masturbation.