Ingame Editors

Posted by omicron1 on Nov. 6, 2007, 3:06 p.m.

In just about every game you see with an editor function, this functionality is contained in a separate area. There's a button labeled "Editor" which you click to enter another room (or sometimes another program) and edit stages. Actually playing your new stage typically involves a playtest button and a bit of load time - not good for seamless editing.

Which is why it is a bit confusing to me that so few games implement true ingame editing - which is to say, a tool accessible from within the game itself that allows you to add new objects to the world at will - sort of like Halo 3's Forge. The possibilities are extensive - if a gap in a platform game is too hard to jump, just plop in a block and rectify the situation. If an area is too easy, it's a matter of a moment to add in a few extra enemies. You can play the game as you create it - and have fun the whole way.

Of course, this method of game construction conflicts with Game Maker's default room-based methodology - to use it requires an external level format/loader. But I believe the advantages to such a method - greatly-decreased development times, hands-on programming, and easy level design - vastly outweigh the costs of adding a new system to your game.

Which means Eldenvald is going to use this method, and possibly DoC as well.

In other news, DoC now successfully loads editor-based files into the game itself. I am continuing to work on editor functionality, especially getting buildings represented properly.

In games: Dwarf Fortress! It's truly amazing how much Toady has managed to put into this little (huge) jewel.

->Gamer3d: Have you got Portal yet?

Odd thing: I found an undocumented GM function today. Typing object_name(object id) will give you a string representing the name of that object or instance. Useful if you keep track of objects in variables or by ID.

Comments

Juju 16 years, 6 months ago

Quote:
object_name(object id)
Very useful indeed!

Arcalyth 16 years, 6 months ago

Um, it is documented.

Polystyrene Man 16 years, 6 months ago

Quote:
Um, it is documented.
Aye, it is. I was using it not too long.

omicron1 16 years, 6 months ago

must be hidden somewhere.

It's not in the popup command list nor the help document.

Polystyrene Man 16 years, 6 months ago

Did you try searching for it?

marbs 16 years, 6 months ago

object_name isn't in the manual, but object_get_name is.

Myth 16 years, 6 months ago

No worries omicron1, if I'll ever make a game whit an editor, it shall have a real editor (and possibly even adding user made content).

FireflyX 16 years, 6 months ago

Ingame editors are more convinient because every time you want to test something you don't have to wait for the area to load.

Gamer3D 16 years, 6 months ago

No, I don't have portal. I have, however, completed season one of Sam and Max (and Overlord). I will soon be playing PoP SoT (Prince of Persia Sands of Time). Also, ingame editors are only useful with limitations (for example, no editing of someone else's level) or the game becomes too easy.

Gamer3D 16 years, 6 months ago